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Jonah Goldberg on Liberal Fascism

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Periergeia Avatar
Posted: 06.08.10, 07:01 PM
The Hudson Institute, a neoconservative think tank, is supported by Eli Lilly and Company, Monsanto Company, DuPont, Dow-Elanco, Sandoz, Ciba-Geigy, ConAgra, Cargill, and Procter & Gamble. Hitler's NSDAP was bankrolled by Thyssen, Krupp, I.G. Farben, A.E.G., DAPAG, Royal Dutch Shell, etc.. Can you see a pattern here? These people are giving a textbook example of the word "Doublespeak".
shaolin Avatar
Posted: 04.05.10, 06:07 PM
I stopped looking after 10 minutes because every person that has studied the history of fascism knows that the socialist element in the NSDAP was eradicated in 1934 with the 'Nacht der langen Messer', when Hitler moved against the SA.
jjrglobal Avatar
Posted: 09.28.09, 01:36 AM
That was directed at bapyou
jjrglobal Avatar
Posted: 09.28.09, 01:21 AM
It is astonishing how Liberals have the testicular fortitude to leave a comment like yours without any argument whatsoever and feel compelled to do so for some reason. Explain why this book and this conversation is dishonest or just shut up.
DillonFreed Avatar
Posted: 07.30.09, 03:59 PM
Droning old white guys? Classy.
Posted: 07.04.09, 07:15 PM
Indeed you are educated,but your statement of fascism emerges from Nitszche is wrong. Nitszche was oppose to all fascist schemes. The catholic indoctrination is the birth of all fascist thinking. what evolve in the aftermath is nothing more than parasites of this I,m and you are not unless you believe unto me.
pwrhoads Avatar
Posted: 11.22.08, 07:32 AM
Next step for Jonah?
Indeed! and I would like to make 2 comments: 1 - Leo Strauss' so called "brush with fascism" was nothing of the sort. He happened to have been a student of C. Schmitt, who was interesting to him not for his post in the nazi goverment (the nazis did not yet exist) but his critical methods. Strauss' youthful politics was secular zionism which, if anything, was left leaning, as the initial character of the state of Israel suggests. 2 - The idea that Fascism is essentially lefist is true. But - and to continue to make a retorical rather than a purely theoretical argument - even truer is that it is even more "progressive" than Communism. Communism, one might say (and to abreviate grossly), emerges from Rousseau, or what Leo Strauss called the "first wave of Modernism", while Fascism emerges from Nitszche, what Leo Strauss calls the "second wave of Modernism". The second wave, a reaction to the first wave, in some ways opposes it, but in other ways radicalizes it. The first wave is highly theoretical, "non-incarnate" one might say. The second wave, however, is more incarnate. In the the fascistic "return" to the "folk" we get the first practical application of that mystical credo which underlies contemporay identity politics and the "authentisity" movements (including the baroque movement in music), as well as, strangely, multiculturalism, which is happy to ignore, say the practice slavery, or the oppression of women, in order to insure the multiculturist lovefest. I am sure that most of the multiculturists do not intend to exterminate the jews but they don't mind if some of thier "multi" cultures do.
bapyou Avatar
Posted: 07.22.08, 02:53 PM
This discussion conveniently leaves out the connection between Fascists, Nazis, and the industrialists of the day. It's all a bunch of right-wing nonsense. There are so many holes in the argument(s) presented here it's not even worth going into. An interesting panel would have included Naomi Klein along with several others. Then there would have been some sparks. Instead, we are presented with droning old white guys patting each other on the back about how "correct" their view of histroy is. And it's not correct. Not in any sense. The view of history presented here is selective, one-sided, and manipulative. End of post.
dilbertgeg Avatar
Posted: 06.14.08, 12:08 AM
Jonah -- should America be hit by another bloodbath so Democrats can "Inherit the Wind"? Which city? Ledeen, referring to public/Congress reluctant about war "of course, we can always get lucky. Stunning events from outside can providentially awaken the enterprise from its growing torpor, and demonstrate the need for reversal, as the devastating Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor in 1941 so effectively aroused the U.S. from its soothing dreams of permanent neutrality." Yeah, we sure got lucky on Sept 11, didn't we. God's Providence was showered down on us, along with flame, concrete dust, and jet fuel.